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« on: August 22, 2005, 07:46:23 PM »

I sent this letter to Iberostar in February of 2005 and they never did respond or acknowledge my concerns.  Guess they do not really care as much as they say.

Mr. Miguel Fluxa
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I am writing this letter for two reasons.  The first is to provide you feedback for use with your performance improvement activities needed at the Iberostar Maya/Lindo in Riveria Maya.  The second reason is to make me feel a little better about a very disappointing experience. 

I am a hospital administrator and I understand how important it is to receive feedback from patients/customers.   We rely very much on this feedback using it to institute performance improvement projects to improve our customer satisfaction.   

We know that it is very important to have patients/customers have a good experience with the facility, staff, food, services and physicians.  If they have better then average experiences then they are likely to return to use our hospital but they also to refer other family members and friends. 

Whether it is Press Gainey, Gallup or some other customer satisfaction service, it is well documented that in order for individuals to refer others to use the hospitals services, their ratings must be well above average.   I think one thing difference between a local hospital and a resort vacation industry, is that people will return to use their local hospital regardless of their experience only because it is in their community or close to where they live.  However, if their experience is bad enough they will travel a further distance, pay more and even persuade others not to use this hospital. 

Well let me get to the issue regarding my disappointment with Iberostar Maya during my vacation stay from February 28, 2005 thru March 6, 2005.

In February of 2004 my wife, my brother and his wife and I stayed a week at Iberostar Bavarro in Punta Cana;   this was our first Caribbean and all inclusive vacation.   It was just fantastic.  We told everyone about it.  This included, other administrators, physicians I work with, other teachers my wife works with, our families, friends and my sister in law’s cousin who works for a travel agent and Apple Tours.  Several did book a vacation and visit Iberostar Bavarro in Punta Cana.  They came back equally pleased.  We almost decided to go back to Punta Cana again this year but decided to see someplace different. 
 

We had heard much about the beauty of the Riveria Maya beaches and believed that by mixing the beaches with Iberostar would be sure to be nothing but perfect.   The cost was twice what it was for Punta Cana, but we did not mind because our experience at Punta Cana was worth it. Iberostar Lindo had to be something that could not be imagined.  It must be like heaven.   

Well, believe me it was something that could not be imagined and it was not heaven. Maybe Hell.  Have you ever heard of buying a lemon for a car?  This was the lemon of a vacation resort!   

I will not be returning to, or referring anyone to go to Iberostar Maya, Lindo, Paraiso or Del Mar.   I will also discourage anyone that is thinking about it.   These resorts are a disgrace to the Iberostar tradition that I read about and experienced first hand an Iberostar Bavarro in Punta Cana. 

I hope you use the information that I laid out on the attached pages to make dramatic improvements in the staff of Iberostar Maya.  I did hear people say how nice they thought it was. This was their first resort all inclusive, first to the Caribbean, and the first to Riveria Maya.   We informed them that compared to Punta Cana, Disney World and even a non-all inclusive of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, this was the pits!!!

In closing, I realize how important the staffs are to having a successful operation.  My nurses, technologists, physicians, maintenance, dietary, and service and support staff make the patient’s experience and care either good or bad.   We can perform the greatest of all tests, and use the best medical skills available, but let the food be bad, floor be dirty or someone talk mean to the patient and then we have done a bad job. 

Such is life!   I saw several of your staff trying to be like the Dominicans, but most fell far short.  I would be very much interested in learning and hearing how you will improve these services.  If you do then the resort will remain and thrive.  If you do not then I see a barren and broken down closed resort like the one that is next to the property.   I even asked several staff if they cared.  Two of five actually told me no!

I wish you the best and hope to hear from you as a follow up.

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2005, 08:35:11 PM »

Instead of ragging on the Mexicans not being more like the Dominicans (bordering on discrimination here Triffer), why dont you tell us what happened exactly. Your post tells us nothing at all of the events that led you to write such a letter.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2005, 10:02:04 AM »

Triffer - what was so horrible about the vacation? What services needed to be improved? "The pits" is a very strong term and is not what I found when I was at the Lindo. We stayed at both the Bavaro and the Lindo and found them both to be very beautiful locations and the staff stellar! Did someone "talk mean" to you? If it's true that 2 out 5 (five, yes five) of the staff really said they did not care, that means that 3 out of 5 do! I wonder if I asked 5 (yes, five) of the staff in your hospital if they cared, would all 5 (yes, FIVE) say they do? Not a very scientific poll. (Five). And since when is hospital food ever good?
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2005, 10:44:35 AM »

Wow! Care to provide us details about why your trip was like "hell".   

We were just there at the Lindo (post hurricane even) and I would recommend it to everyone.  It wasn't our first all inclusive.  We've been to the Moon Palace, Mexico; Atlantis, Nassau; and cruised last year with Royal Caribbean and frequent Caesars in Las Vegas.   


We found the staff to be couteous and friendly.


Please do provide the specifics.  I am really curious now!
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2005, 08:07:41 AM »

Back up to main menu and see "Vacation Nightmare" post right under this one for triffer's specific complaints.......

I think the fact that triffer's complaints came during and after Hurricane Emily speaks volumes.  I for one would not expect ANY of the staff to rush up to me and kiss my behind or be at my beck and call right after a disaster such as a hurricane!  I would be one of the vacationers that would actually pitch in and help clear debris (or whatever else I could do).  I would also be thankful to be alive (having JUST been in a hurricane) and not b$tch about not having cable TV or internet access! 

I also found both the Lindo & Maya to be top notch.  The staff was very curteous and helpful.  I will definitely be returning in the future. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2005, 01:14:42 PM »

vlucas:  triffer wasn't there during the hurricane.  triffer was there end of Feb. to early March.  (and I still didn't see the specific complaints)  Oh well, we can't all see everything the same way.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2005, 06:23:32 AM »

Sorry about that, guys!  I was reading the wrong post.  Oops.  You're right, Jim - I don't see a specific problem either.  Oh well.........   I still LOVE the Playa Paraiso complex and I'll be back!   
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2005, 10:33:12 AM »

i have read all of triffer's post(3) and they are all this same complaint or lack of complaint, i dont think they will come back to even read these responses. some people are high maintanence and are only pleased if everything falls the way they want, the rest of us are happy to be in a sunny place with free food and drinks and smiling faces and dont need to be fused over not sure. And yes most of us know that the staff is wonderful but we all hate our jobs from time to time so that fact that a wopping 2 people responded negatively doesnt cast shame on the whole resort. Stiffer after reading your post i wouldnt have responded if i were iberostar either YOU DIDNT ACTUALLY COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC what are they suppose to respond to think
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2005, 02:56:43 PM »

Amen raider.  Without any details the posts are nothing more than useless noise!!!

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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2005, 08:06:45 PM »

Raider & Mike....   applause         I loved our trip to the Lindo and can't wait to go again and bring our daughter.     If you expect to have your buns kissed all week head to the Ritz Carlton or the Four Seasons.    Some people just don't know how to chill and have a good time.   
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 03:14:50 PM »

I agree with the rest of the replys, you have specified nothing to convince anyone reading your review that this was a bad experience.  Frankly, your letter speaks more of the hospital you work at, than anything else.  Please don't try to convince me that your entire hospital is firendly & wonderful b/c I think we all know that is merely impossible.  You also have to keep in mind when you are nice to people, they are nice back. I have been to Iberostar in Cozumel, Mexico & twice to Bavrro in Punta Cana. 3 wonderful trips with an extremely firendly staff.  I would imagine that Riveria Maya is just as good. We love the Iberostar!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2006, 01:48:08 AM »

Triffer has left the same type of review on Trip Advisor. When asked what the actual problems were, Triffer did not respond. Sadly, his letter is filled with grandious speach about himself and his postion. I think if he actually detailed specific issues we might consider this a valid opinion. For now, I am taking it as the spouting off of a narcisitic, hard to please individual.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2006, 08:12:47 AM »

how many times is he going to post this. and he wont even answeer are questions . Hospital Administrator. ha more likely in a ward


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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2006, 07:31:38 PM »

high five mark.
 it just shows you how people are. maybe they should just stay put and not go anywhere.crying babies that is all. belch
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2006, 03:06:08 PM »

Funny how there haven't been any complaints since the one from Triffer.

Maybe the Hosp Admin got admitted.
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